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time in our history. and over the past six years illegal border crossings have been cut by more than half. although this summer there was a brief spike in unaccompanied children being apprehended at our border the number of such children is now actually lower than it has been in nearly two years. overall the number of people trying to cross our border illegally is at its lowest level since the 1970's. those are the facts. meanwhile, i worked with congress on a comprehensive fix. and last year 6 democrats republicans and independents came together to pass a bipartisan bill in the senate. it wasn't perfect. it was a compromise. but it reflected common sense. it would have doubled the number of border patrol agents while giving undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship if they paid a fine, started paying their taxes and went to the back of the line. an independent expert said that it would help grow our economy
and shrink our deficits. had the house of representatives allowed that kind of bill a simple yes or no vote they would have passed with support from both parties. and today it would be the law. but for a year-and-a-half now republican leaders in the house have refused to allow that simple vote. now, i continue to believe that the best way to solve this problem is by working together to pass that kind of common-sense law. but until that happens, there are actions i have the legal authority to take as president the same kinds of actions taken by democratic and republican presidents before me that will help make our immigration system more fair and more just. tonight i am announcing those actions. first, we will build on our progress at the border with additional resources for our law enforcement personnel. so that they can stem the flow of illegal crossings and speed the return of those who do
cross over. second, i will make it easier and faster for high skilled immigrants graduates and entrepreneurs to stay and contribute to our economy. as so many business leaders have proposed. third, we will take steps to deal responsibly with the millions of undocument combd grants who already live in our country. i want to say more about this third issue because it generates the most passion and controversy. even as we are a nation of immigrants we're also a nation of laws. undocumented workers broke our immigration laws. and i believe that they must be held accountable. especially those who may be dangerous. that is why over the past six years deportations of criminals are up 803r9s. that's why we are -- 80%. that's why we're going to keep focusing resources on threats to our security. felons, not families. criminals, not children.
gang members, not a mom who is working hard to provide for her kids. we will prioritize just like law enforcement does every day. but even as we focus on deporting criminals the fact is millions of immigrants in every state of every race and nationality still live here illegally. and let's be honest. tracking down rounding up and deporting millions of people isn't realistic. anyone who suggests otherwise isn't being straight with you. it is also not who we are as americans. after all most of these immigrants have been here a long time. they work hard offense in tough low-paying jobs. they support their families. they worship at our churches. many of their kids are american born or spent most of their lives here. and their hopes, dreams, and patriotism are just like ours.
as my predecessor president bush once put it, they are a part of american life. now, here is the thing. we expect people who live in this country to play by the rules, we expect that those who cut the line will not be unfairly rewarded so we're going to offer the following deal. if you've been in america for more than five years, if you have children who are american citizens or leel residents, if you register, pass a criminal background check and you're willing to pay your fair share of taxes, you will be able to apply to stay in this country temporarily without fear of deportation. you can come out of the shadows and get right with the law. that's what this deal is. now, let's be clear about what it isn't. this deal does not apply to anyone who has come to this country recently. it does not apply to anyone who might come to america illegally in the future. it does not grant citizenship
or the right to stay here permanently or offer the same ben filingts that citizens receive. only congress can do that. all we're saying is we are not going to deport you. i know some of the critics of this action call it amnesty. >> if the immigration system we have today. people who live here who don't rules and pay taxes. that is the real amnesty. leading this broken system the way this. mass amnesty would be unfair, would be both on impossible and country to our character. i'm describing is a commonsense middleground approach. you meet the criteria you
can enter the law. your chances of getting caught just went up. and not ons i am taking only lawful, just like the by every single republican for the past century. picking question the wisdom of me act, congress has failed, i proposition, pass a bill. i want a more legislative solution. the actions i take will no longer be necessary that they. meanwhile, don't let a disagreement over a single issue be a dealbreaker on every issue. is not how democracy works. and congress should selling up
that our government again. are tired of gridlock, what our country needs is a common purpose, a high purpose. most americans support the i spoke about m tonight, i understand the main disagreement you hold. millions of us. we go back generations with worked hard to get it pass. i note some worry immigration will change the very fabric of are, they will take our jobs. the middle-class seem they have got a raw deal. i share those concerns. but that is not what the steps history and the effects show that immigrants are a big part of our society
and our economy. it is important that we have this debate without going into the character. and forth of ack washington, we have to remember that this debate is about something bigger. are as a who we country, and who we want to be for future generations. a nation that tolerates the hypocrisy of the system who pick our fruits never have a chance to get right with the law? or are we a nation to give them a chance for amends and take kids nsibility, give the are better future. are we a nation that accepts the cruelty of taking children from the parents arms, while we nation that values families and works to keep them together. are we a nation that educates in our t and brightest universities only persimmon and compete against us, or
a nation that encourages them to stay and create industry and business here in america. that is what this debate is all about. we need more than politics when it comes to immigration. reason, thoughtful, compassionate debate the focus -- in our hopes, not our fears. limit or you why i have come to so strongly about this. the the past year as in dissemination of immigrant fathers who have two or three dime from ut taking a the government. the wanted to lose it alters to make a better life for their kids. as in inciting children whose mothers may be taken away from they do not cause
fit the legal status. studennts who bravely come out as undocumented and hope they can make a difference in the country they love. these people are neighbours, classmates, our friends, they did not come here in search of an easy life. they came to work and study,, serve in our military, and above all contribute to america's success. tomorrow i will travel to las vegas and meet some of these students. included astrid, she was brought here when she was four years old. surely capable and address she had on. which is that school she could
not speak any english, she other kids by h watching tv and reading newspapers. became a good student, her father worked in landscaping worked other r people's homes. let astrid not applied to science school breakers they believe the paperwork would have as an under command of immigrant. back e applied behind her and applied in. shadows ived in the until her grandmother passed away. she can travel to the funeral found out sk of being and deported, it was around that time when she began to and others r herself like her. today astrid is a college on her third ng degree. a nation kicks out
striving immigrants like astrid, or are we a nation that finds way to welcome her in. scripture tells us that we not press a stranger, for we know the heart of a stranger. we were strangers once to. my fellow americans we are and always will be a nation of immigrants. were strangers once to. atlantic e crossed the or the pacific, we are here country ause this welcomed them in and sort them of being american something more than what we look like on or who we names are, worship. what makes americans is our commitment to an ideal, of us believe in and have the chance to make our lives what we will.
are e is the country parents and grandparents and generations before them built for us. there is the tradition we must uphold. that is the legacy we must leave for those yet to come. thank you. god bless you. and god bless this country we love. from republican congressional leaders, beginning with house speaker john boehner at a news conference one day after the president's address and then senate minority leader mitch mcconnell spoke from the senate floor ahead of the president's speech.
>> nation's immigration system is broken and i think we need to work together to fix it. starts with a commitment to work through a and abiding rocess the laws that the president has sworn faithfully to execute. i have worn the president that by taking unilateral action by actions repeatedly on immigration he was making trust to ssible java work together. as i want the president, you cannot ask the elected representatives of the people when you cancel it demonstrate you can be trusted. the president never listens. with this action hero has refused to listen to american people.
he has taken action but he has said it is one of those of a king on emperor. he's doing this without solving the biggest problems of this country, starting with our struggling economy. this will only encourage more people to come here illegally and putting their lives in risk. crisis the humanitarian in our borders, hhow terrific it was. well, next, it could be worst. this just punishes people who obeyed the law on which of their time. with this action the president has chosen to deliberately sabotaged any chance of an he ing bipartisan reform but claims to see. i told him yesterday, his damaging the presidency itself.
president obama has turned a deaf ear to the people who elected him. will not do that. rest of this challenge, will not stand idle as the president undermines the rule of law in this country. we were listen to the american work with our l members and will try to protect the constitution of the united states. you all know what the rules are. >> the president says you could have avoided this by showing the act has was quick to take action on immigration reform. >> the president made 38 unilateral changes to the affordable care act. he repeatedly suggested that he was going to unilaterally change the immigration law and
he created an environment where the members were not trust him. work g to find a way to together was impossible. i want him over and over that his actions were making it impossible for me to do all he wanted me to do. you plan u tell us how to respond, when the house will respond and whether you agree with chairman roger is that these things are funded, this is not a constitutional avenue. >> we are working with the options available to us. the house will act. process tarted a peace earlier this year, would you renovate that? are you going to start from scratch? a broken aid, we have immigration system. the american people want us to work together.
we are to do in the democratic process. moving it through the senate and to the house. you and happy thanksgiving. >> i would like to say a few words this morning about president obama proposed exhibit of action on immigration. i will begin with quote the " democracy is hard". it is right. our laws means it is hard work votes one minds and by one.
i can agree more with the president's statement. democracy's blessings make it the constraints it imposes, both is legal contours. is messy, democracy we accept that we don't always get what we want, when we want it. based on more of what the president said in miami, this is something he symptoms than as well. he was talking about and immigration that they. said s something else he on that topic, "i know some woodcutters pass this in change the law myself" . but that is not how democracy works. indeed mr president, it isn't.
in the president surely follow attempt he will envision a disputed his own view of democracy. she will contradict his past statements on this very issue. the essence is of present obama saying he does not have the in a plastic hings do, they are almost too numerous to list. he traced to suggest otherwise last weekend. clarifying that the president has acted specifically and was against the current actions. lacked the legal authority the ct, according to present himself. said exhibit of action was not an option.
because he would be ignoring the law. he said there was a path for this to be done and i was through congress. his right. action he is proposing would reject the voice of the and would impose an offer treatment on law abiding immigrants. already seen the consequences of the child arrivals. it was a factor in encouraging young people to risk their had not a journey some even thought of. just how the affordable care act had little to do with more
the current immigration reform does not actually works on immigration reform. the action of the president is it is out solutions, about compassion, seems to be what a political think will make good politics. it seems to be what were president things would be good for his legacy. motivations which should be encouraging such a sweeping act. the plan is presenting is more than just as the president acknowledged, is also offer. what is the president had to say to the countless immigrants been waiting for years patiently in the line? where is his compassion to them?
what does he have to say to miller's makers who cannot find work? the he tried to reach aisle to secure a reach for them? where is the justice? where is the justice in that? some people seem to forget that we just had an election. the election the proposed his unilateral plan, hhe reminded us that his policies are not on the ballot. people voted. to like t does not have the result but he has the respect it. the american people clearly sent a message, nobody missed it. they say they want to see is
working together, they want to see more serious ideas passed through congress. or they do not say that wanted a president ignoring the same representatives they have just elected. our phones have continued to ring all week on capitol hill. our constituents want to be heard. to listen obama needs their voices, if nothing else the president would consider the view of democratic senators who have urged them not to do this. democrats understand the consequences. either way, he needs to understand something. if president obama imposes his country, congress will act. a rarity of dering
options, but make no mistake, mmake no mistake. when a newly elected robson's lives of the people take their seats they will act. as the president has said, democracy is hard. unilaterally will may seem tempting, inmates serving politically in the short-term. an he knows it would make already broken system,, even more broken. and he knows this is not how democracy is. he told us himself. alabama senator jeff session said they were not impeach president obama for his executive order on immigration. that comment while speaking at the heritage foundation.
opportunity to remind everybody to silence their cellphones. mike gonzalez will be introducing senator jeff sessions. he spent close to 20 years as a journalist for the george w bush administration. [applause] >> thank you andrew. welcome to all of you. night, as you're no the president said he was going to a ahead and do what only year ago said only an emperor would do. constitution is crystal
the power gress has over immigration. it is why we welcome today in member of congress which will what that unequal branch proposed to do to deffend their authority. centre sessions has been a voice on this issue, he will lay out what options they consider in response to the president's announcement. president obama has precipitated and damaging constitutional crisis. pollsters have told again and again that illegal immigration is is not at the top of the priority. and the ike education economy are. the president's executive order
nothing on these fronts. as the wall street journal put it this morning, the president's actions only create with the american institutions. we are a nation of immigrants. immigrants have been attracted to come here primarily because we have the rule of law. and here is what we have to return to. to join nator sessions me today, and welcome him today. as he tells us what we can do to protect what is right. [applause] >> thank you. to be with you. president granted the
amnesty to 5,000,000 people, repeatedly ss had refused to do. he did it by basically saying i'm not going to enforce the law of the united states. american people and american who have been here time of for jobs at a high unemployment, he undermined our review. she basically undermined division of l powers. in the federal prosecutor, i've had immigration cases myself. when you prosecute somebody, defendant and the
will to know that there also be prosecuted in a fashion or you lose your integrity in for the moral position. that is something that legal system cannot sustain. i feel strongly about this. people for 40 years, they have an absolute right to. of immigration that serves the national interests. serves their interests. what is wrong with that? politicians have refused to give that to them time and time again. they run the promise when they go to office but then they do nothing. i said at the end because it became clear to me, politicians will not pass anything as long as it doesn't change anything.
they will pass what will not work. that omprehensive bill the best forward had talking points, i said i am for the talking points less vote on them. piece of other -- there was actually allowing the legality to continue in interest to serve powerful forces. they just interest of american will not be rewarded. up for s for us to stand the american people. some feeding her last night was about recent immigrants salaries, about american people difficulty to find a job.
out are here the forces are there that say this is always good for america. what economic experts say. in the high-tech wages have gonne up. people in those fields than even find jobs. there is fax and is documented and cannot be disputed. letter to the action on demanding other people, giving more the right to eople microsoft has just
fired hundreds of people. 7000. he's going to tell us now all we need to do. it is no like in a situation. not in a crisis without the number of workers necessary. i go around and visit factories a lot, and i enjoy that. when you see more automation year, we are making more things with less people. i just as in this nation faces we risis of a lack of work, have a crisis in a lack of jobs for the workers we have. i think we talk about that. i believe it is right and just.
shouldn't that that be the policy of the government of the united states? we believe somehow they see wages go up and they think that is bad. you have never thought that is bad, have you? wages rising, oh, that's bad. it's not bad for a politician, for people who are supposed to help the millions of average people in this country. it should be our job that wages go up. and i feel strongly about that. and somehow we're offtrack, in my view, in our thinking. and the fundamental lack is a lack of concern for stability of the nation. national review had a line, great conservatives that they are, and i went to the core of
it. we are a nation with an economy, not an economy with a nation. they are a nation, and a nation owes things to its people. it owes responsibility and fidelity to their interests. the average working truck driver is worth just as much as mr. zuckerberg, just as much as a wall street masters of the universe. and who is representing them? if you want to be able to lead the american people, you should serve their interests. we see so much baloney about, oh, we need to do something about immigration. i'm against all of this. when the dust settles, nothing happens that they've been asking for, the american people have. well, you remember right after
the last election, we were told if we didn't pass this comprehensive amnesty bill, the republican party was doomed. we were going to lose the hispanic vote forever, and we wouldn't win any more elections. you remember that? mr. priebus, he got that report back. and this is what he said two weeks before the election, or a month before the election, about this executive amnesty. it's unconstitutional. and we don't support it. and i think this represented the consensus statement of the republican party to the american people, before the election. it's wrong. it's un-american for a president to try to do such a thing. i want to make it clear. there is no part of me, and there's not a molecule in my body that agrees with the president on executive amnesty. it's wrong. it's illegal. and for so many reasons. and it's just the basic fabric of this country. we can't allow it to happen. we won't allow it to happen. i don't know how to be any stronger than that. i'm telling you, everything we can do to stop it, we will. so we had a huge election victory and got a larger percentage of the hispanic vote than we did before. i just would say to you, there is a lot of misinformation out
there. a lot of these consultants that helped write this report two years ago either don't know what they're talking about or were taking advice from people with money at stake, in my opinion. so the situation is worse than a lot of you know. one of the top officials in the obama administration said that for the routine immigrant in america today, unlawfully here, their chances of being deported were virtually zero. now, that is a fact. you need to know that. if you get past the border, you're home-free under obama's orders to his police officers, his i.c.e. officers, not to enforce the law. the i.c.e. officers in texas filed a lawsuit against their supervisors, and janet
napolitano, claiming they were on a daily basis directed be i their supervisors to violate their oath to enforce the law. this is where we are. 40% of the people who are here unlawfully in the country today, they project an increase in that, and i think it's true, are visa overstays. so people are coming on visa and just not returning. there's a law on the books for over ten years that says we should establish an entrance system and an exit visa system. we have the entrance system. but congress or the president have refused to do the exit system. so we have no idea what visa holders ever return and which ones overstay. we just don't even know. and there's nobody looking to ascertain that. so this the arose the moral integrity of your law? i don't see how you can have a
legitimate law enforcement system if you don't even undertake the most simple method of clocking people in and clocking them out when they leave. and it's valuable for our national security as well as our economy. and so we're in a really unhealthy situation. the danger is greater than a lot of people realize. and the question boils down, i would say to you, do we believe in open borders, or do we believe in the sovereign state that has the legitimate right to establish entrance and exit in our country? so the american people, what do they want? they want a legitimate system of
immigration that serves their interest, that's lawful, that they can be proud of, not one that causes constant uproar. and with regard to immigrants and their ability to assimilate into america and hard feelings that occur, i think that's a direct result of this illegality and the frustration over it. i don't think the american people are mad at immigrants. they fully understand that immigrants would like to come to america, more than we can accept. they are mad at their government and their politicians. and that's what the anger is about, because we refuse to do what the right thing is. one more thing. and i guess our time -- what's our time here? we're going to do a panel, right, next? i believe there is a better way. and i had occasion to talk with a canadian official in charge of it, their immigration system. i like what they do.
they went through a national discussion about what to do. they developed a plan called -- it's a point system. and it's simply -- it simply identifies an objective way to ascertain who should be given priority in emigrating to canada. they give you more points if you speak english or french. they found that if you have a college degree or even two years of college, you're much more successful in canada, so they give you more points for more education. they give you more points if there's a specific job shortage in canada. they give you more points if you're going to a province of canada that needs workers. that's where you're going. they give you more points, young people, if you're young rather than old, because they take care of people's health, as we do in the united states, and we know
if you bring in older people, they'll work fewer years and they will then be, you know, receiving government benefits. so they want younger people to help canada be more prosperous. those are the kind of things we should establish in america. and we are so far from that. over 90% of the people who emigrate to america are not on a skill basis system, any kind of evaluation. you've got two young people in honduras. one of them has learned english. he watches the television. he studies it at school. he's a valedictorian of his class. another one dropped out of high school and hasn't been very successful but has a brother in the united states. who should be admitted to our country? shouldn't we be acting in what's our interest? i remember in 2007, we got a professor testifying before the judiciary committee, and he
said, well, you tell me, senators, what you want. if you want a system that serves the interest of people who want to come to america, i can answer that question, for poor people around the globe coming to america, it advances their interests. if you want to develop a system that serves the interests of the united states, let me know, and we will help you develop one that will do that. so i think that's the fundamental question we're at. so immigration is such a sensitive issue, because all of us have friends and relatives and neighbors and people that work with us that are here, and they're good people an decent people. and so it's painful sometimes to talk about this. the sooner we develop a system that we can be proud of, that's objective and fair and serves the national interests, the
sooner we get that done, i think the tension will go out of this, and we'll be able to have a much more harmonious system. but this unilateral determination by the president to execute his vision that the american people clearly rejected in this past election, i think is the wrong way to do it. here is the polling data from the kelly and conway poll. 77% of respondents said jobs should go to current u.s.-born workers or legal immigrants already in the country instead of bringing in new immigrants to do the job. they said companies should rage wages and improve worker condition instead of increasing immigration. no doubt about it. no doubt, if you bring in more iron, you bring in more cotton,
the price of cotton falls. you bring in more labor, the cost of labor falls. the number 1 authority has documented that this flow, this large, large flow has been part of the declining wages of the american worker. since 2009, we've had a $2300 drop in median household income. that's amazing, from 2007. it's more than $3,000 decline. this is huge. and it is a factor that we have a surplus of labor, in my view, and i would note that calvin coolidge, who is having a little revival, and he believed we had this huge -- that we had reached a peak of immigrants in america and we were having difficulties. just like now.
we're another another peak. the percentage of foreign-born in america is about as high as its it's ever been in the country, and it's surging more. so he said he believed it was a rational and sensible to swing the pendulum back towards the average wage-earning american. to naturalize citizens, we want to keep wages and living conditions good for everyone who is now here or who may come here. as a nation, our first duty must be to those who are already our inhabitants, whether native or immigrants. to them, we owe a special and weighty obligation. and they did that. they passed laws that reduced the flow for a time, for i guess 40 years. and the labor market tightened. and as coolidge predicted, wages began to grow and we had a very strong middle class. thank you for your interest.
i thank the heritage foundation for digging into many of the facts that are critical to our analysis of how we handle immigration in america. it's a very important issue. we need to get it right. and we need a lawful system that serves the national interests of the united states, one that we can be proud of. and thank you all. i hope you can help us achieve that. thank you. [applause] >> thanks, senator. at this point, we can -- i don't know if you have time for questions. >> i could. >> if you can take a few questions. >> i'll do many i best. >> i'll let you go ahead and moderate, if you'd like to take a question. one in the back here.
>> i am the american people. and i do understand the problem. i think the people i know and talk with, the biggest thing we talk about -- we talk about these problems, but we never talk about solutions. and one of the biggest things that is missing for the american people is the trust in our president and our leaders, where they've lied and misled us, to the point that i don't even listen to some of them anymore. and most people i know don't. we are specific on who we listen to. and that's a shame. what i would like to know is, how are with egoing to change this -- how are we going to change this environment where we, the american people, can trust our leadership to do the right thing and to not mislead us and lie to us and be
effective and efficient in our operation of our government? >> i think that's a big problem. like i said, i thought that the talking points for the gang of eight bill were pretty good. i withheld criticism until i saw it come out. but they had no law enforcement people in the room. they had special interest groups only writing the bill. it came out written by clever lawyers and it wouldn't work. so i think the american people are ready for a improvement in their system that they believe will work. and i think the move is strongly that way. i think candidates in this last election articulated that desire. and people rewarded candidates who spoke up, like scott brown. there you have the democrats losing in virginia. you had purdue winning in georgia, businessman he is. he was articulate and strong on this issue. so i would just say that's
a -- you're on the right track. and it's time for us to actually put together some legislation, and the republicans now have a majority in the senate and we're going to try to do that, that we can defend intellectually to the american people. hopefully they'll trust us. yes, sir? >> are you going to impeach president obama for his actions? thanks. [laughter] >> no, we're not going to impeach or have a move to impeach. the president has certain powers. we truly believe, and i think it's accurate to say, he abused those powers. he didn't fulfill his role, which is to enforce the law. as a federal prosecutor, i worked and was appointed by the president. so if he doesn't believe the laws ought to be enforced, his entire machinery don't. but we do have legitimate congressional powers, the power of the purse. i just was impressed recently
with a quote from carl levin, who is a strong longtime democratic senator, who talked about this subject. and i think all of you need to know. i liked it because of what i've been saying. but it's good to have carl, one of our most brilliant senators. the obama spokesperson said this is a tactic to use the funding to shut down the government. carl levin said, he described withholding funds for the executive order on immigration. he described it as a standard congressional procedure that should not be confused with shutting down the government, quote, that's not slash and burn. that's not bringing down the government. that's a fairly traditional targeted approach to make a policy point. so congress has used its power that way. i think you should watch a lot of our members of congress who have talked very aggressively about this.
but we do need to figure out a way -- and there are different approaches -- to really push back, because it goes beyond immigration, when the president can say, "i don't like this tax law, congress, pass this tax law," and congress doesn't act. and then he says, all the irs agents, don't enforce it. i mean, this is the kind of thing we're talking about. i can't recall such a massive alteration of the classical understanding of what laws mean in america, being wiped out as we're seeing now. it's a serious constitutional question. but the powers congress has and ought to use. >> last question. but senator, thank you very much. >> good to see you all. [applause] >> ted cruz also says that they
immigration the policy. analysts say one possible result government shutdown not fearich they say do because it cannot hurt at the polls. and laid out a detailed, plan.matic wa one, is the incoming majority leader should announce with of the president influence this lawless eminence of the senate will not confirm any executive or judicial nominees for the next two years unless
and until they end this lawlessness. are you saying that the senate should refuse to confirm loretto lynch, the new nominate word attorney general? met -- leave eric holder in that position longer? we shouldam saying is use the constitutional checks and balances we have two rate in the executive. our framers talked about a president that would rule monarch.i a >> but would you block loretto lynch? >> the majority leader should decline to bring to the floor of the senate and the nomination other than vital national to your arty.
before assuming his current role in the white house, he was communications director for president obama. as always, we are on the record. no live blogging or tweeting. big away so we have what they -- what to say. there is no embargo on tweets with the session ends. theill e-mail pictures to attendees.
and if you would like to ask questions, send me a subtle, nonthreatening signal, and i will call on his music can get to. to.y as we can get you have long been a key defender of the obama brand and message. you talk about the communications challenge for president obama and the white house now, doing something that he repeatedly said would not be proper given the separation of hours -- powers. i do not think it was a tough communication challenge. let the president has said is what he cannot do is and all deportations or implement the
send immigration bill by fiat. when what he did ask was furniture in general to come -- this was very well-established. i think that part is certainly handled. immigration has been an issue for a very long time. we are polarized in washington right now. everything right now is a live fire exercise. we have a lot of pullbacks from